1268: When Doves Cry (A Period Piece)

[hayroob]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

I have a gazzillion issues.

Not telling anyone how to get off, just saying what i think.

(queer)

If enjoying watching a dude fuck a chick makes me gay then sign me up.

I've given it some thought and the ideas projection and voyeurism and the various kinds of responses to the mechanics of sex are parts of why I and I suspect most people like watching porn. It's a complicated jumble and I don't have a satisfactory or clean representation for what is I like, especially because what I like shifts so often.

The thing is I don't need to work out a good representation. I look around, I see what I like, I go with it.

[Junkenstein]

so, to go back to the beginning of the discussion, you find girl on girl stuff not interesting and kinky sex weird?

No flaming, i'm just asking.

[hayroob]

Originally Posted by Junkenstein

so, to go back to the beginning of the discussion, you find girl on girl stuff not interesting and kinky sex weird?

No flaming, i'm just asking.

Girl on girl is ok, but not really my bag. Kink can be great, but i'm really not into it when it's not extremely clear that both parties are 100% on board. When they are it's tops.

Although to be fair ask me in 6 months or on any given day and either stand could shift.

[stulagu]

Originally Posted by punk'n

Fabio is NOT hot, Junk. Jeeeeeze you're so straight...

Fabio is so early 90's, get me Sawyer from Lost anyday with that southern accent and those dimples. Yum.

I would really love for there to be a great movie with some nice porn thrown in rather than the other way around. Movies like Thomas Crown Affair, Mr. and Mrs. Smith and Original Sin get me way more hot and bothered than a porn. I want story and connection with the actors and that makes the sex scenes all the more potent.

[Junkenstein]

Originally Posted by hayroob

Girl on girl is ok, but not really my bag. Kink can be great, but i'm really not into it when it's not extremely clear that both parties are 100% on board. When they are it's tops.

Although to be fair ask me in 6 months or on any given day and either stand could shift.

ok, you make perfectly sense. i dont see it the way you do but you express your view politely and with a god argument.

FAir enough.

[Cretaceous Bob]

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

Did you actually mean to quote my post? You cut off the parts where I negated everything you then went on about in your reply post.

No, you didn't. I was emphasizing the fact that my fantasies are not third person experiences. I don't know how you didn't understand that. I thought I was pretty clear. And "everything" is not "one sentence".

Originally Posted by Medium Brumski

I don't get the close-ups on genitalia or money shots in porn, but I also don't get Bobs and Junks assertions on how their existence can skew ones sexuality.

Dude, do not sit there and try to tell me that you and I are the same sexuality. I find men sexually repulsive and do not want them to even speak behind a camera. You want them in your porn with their dick out. There is a pretty fucking clear difference there.

Originally Posted by hayroob

I'm pretty sure that dudes who tell other dudes how they should get off also have issues.

Could just be my issues though, so who knows.

I don't know that anyone's said in this thread what people should do.

Originally Posted by hayroob

If enjoying watching a dude fuck a chick makes me gay then sign me up.

I've given it some thought and the ideas projection and voyeurism and the various kinds of responses to the mechanics of sex are parts of why I and I suspect most people like watching porn. It's a complicated jumble and I don't have a satisfactory or clean representation for what is I like, especially because what I like shifts so often.

The thing is I don't need to work out a good representation. I look around, I see what I like, I go with it.

I don't think you're what Junk and I have been talking about. As long as everybody's okay with what they're into, cool beans.

But you have to be able to understand my conundrum of what sexuality is finding men sexually repulsive? Because it isn't heterosexuality. I thought it'd as far over there as possible, but evidently not.

[Medium Brumski]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

No, you didn't. I was emphasizing the fact that my fantasies are not third person experiences. I don't know how you didn't understand that. I thought I was pretty clear. And "everything" is not "one sentence".

Your fantasies aren't third person, but the porn you're into is, and porn is about fantasy. Strange that you say your imagination isn't broken, yet you can't imagine yourself in the position of the dude on the screen doing the fucking, that's why I don't understand you.

And you did take out more then one sentence, most of it wasn't pertaining to the point you were making, but you did take out the part where I said I don't need a penis shot, which is what you seem to think guys do need if there is a male actor present.

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

Dude, do not sit there and try to tell me that you and I are the same sexuality. I find men sexually repulsive and do not want them to even speak behind a camera. You want them in your porn with their dick out. There is a pretty fucking clear difference there.

Are we the same sexuality, assuming that sexuality is only divided into gay, bi or straight, then yes we are. I'm straight and I'm assuming you are to. Do I find men sexually repulsive? I suppose I do, but I also find alot of women sexually repulsive. However I don't find the male form in general repulsive, but I've probably spent to much time on the farm and in a science lab to find alot of things repulsive.

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

I don't know that anyone's said in this thread what people should do.


I don't think you're what Junk and I have been talking about. As long as everybody's okay with what they're into, cool beans.

Cool beans indeed, just watch your assertions when coming to matters that tend to have a gray area.

[hayroob]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

But you have to be able to understand my conundrum of what sexuality is finding men sexually repulsive? Because it isn't heterosexuality. I thought it'd as far over there as possible, but evidently not.

I think that's just your bag. It's not a hetero/homo/other thing.

You find a cock in your porn "repulsive", I find them a plus. If you took that sentence in isolation I sound a little out there, but since what I'm talking about is a cock entering a woman, I think I'm square. There's a million things that each and every one of us would love in porn that many others wouldn't be into at all and might even find repulsive, but thats about sexuality in a much broader sense.

Whatever turns you on and doesn't hurt anybody else is what you should go with and don't get caught up thinking that you gotta draw lines on something gray.

P.S. Medium Brumski great post.

[stulagu]

Originally Posted by Cretaceous Bob

I will never be able to understand how in the world it is possible for anyone to do such a thing. My imagination is not broken enough that I need to stare at somebody else's dick in my porn. I agree with Junkenstein 100% on this; straight males have a really weird relationship with penises that I don't think constitutes true heterosexuality.

This is the statement Bob that I think is confusing everyone. I think it is fairly clear that by saying you agree with Junk 100% on this (right after he said he thinks 98% of guys are secretly gay and other comments) and then talk about true heterosexuality, you are asserting that if you like to see another guy in porn, you aren't 100% straight.

I love seeing girl/guy action in regular tv or porn...the rough scene from Rome is one of my favorites of all time, yet I don't necessarily like it that rough. But MAN that is a turn on to watch. What does that make me? That I like to see the girl AND some passionate aggression? I'm a closeted lesbian into S&M?

[Aristokat]

Loved this episode! I was raised as a Jehovah's Witness and escaped when I was 17. I hated going door-to-door, I was so embarrassed and I always stressed that I'd see someone I knew from school. The major difference JWs have from the rest of Christianity is that while they absolutely believe Jesus is the son of God (Jehovah), they do NOT believe in the trinity.