2253: Fuck Your Book

My Sweaty Balls · 10-08-2015, 07:16 PM

Interesting that there was very little book talk on the forums.

it seems the philosophy around here is if you are religious ignorant you are stupid - if you are book ignorant you are cool.

I disagreed with everything said about books on this episode. (OK Kurt Vonnegut is great but everything else).

But I disagreed most with Sparrow.

I was never into Jane Austin growing up, but recently I saw a list of the greatest novels of all time - and Pride and Prejudice was number 1. So I read it, with the expectation that the critics who wrote the list were full of shit.

Nope - it was fucking great. Read it.

(Then read Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian - my current favourite book.)

My Sweaty Balls · 10-08-2015, 07:38 PM

On the pole results.

I really hate it when people say they don't believe in the god but the respect Jesus as some sort of great moral teacher.

I get it if you are religious and have drunk the cool aid and believe in shit that's obviously not true, because you have Faith.

I get it if you see all religion as bullshit and therefore you don't believe in Jesus because you need Evidence.

But how can you say I don't have faith, but I'm going to ignore the evidence. (in case you are wondering, there is no evidence apart from the New Testament that Jesus existed. There is lots of evidence that the New Testament is bullshit).

If you don't believe in god, don't believe in Jesus.

End of Rant.....no, no wait a sec, one more thing.

And you know who is worse, "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual," combining the arrogance of atheism with the stupidity of religion. Its the worst of both worlds.

Why do people like the pope? - well he wasn't in the Nazi Part, and he didn't run the part of the church in charge of covering up pedophilia.

Sparrow · 10-08-2015, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by My Sweaty Balls

I saw a list of the greatest novels of all time - and Pride and Prejudice was number 1. So I read it, with the expectation that the critics who wrote the list were full of shit.

Nope - it was fucking great. Read it.

you think i hate it having not read it? i've read it. buh-lieve me, honey. it's still a turd. ooOOOoOOO Elizabeth! Darcy! will they? won't they? fuck off.

My Sweaty Balls · 10-08-2015, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

you think i hate it having not read it? i've read it. buh-lieve me, honey. it's still a turd. ooOOOoOOO Elizabeth! Darcy! will they? won't they? fuck off.

"Read It" was a general recommendation, not aimed at you. And I stand by it.

Sparrow · 10-08-2015, 10:50 PM

oh. well then, i apologize for taking it personally. i just hate it /so/ much. and those dewy eyed dummy fucks who read it during lunch. THE CAFETERIA ISN'T GODDAMN WUTHERING HEIGHTS, REBECCA!!!

My Sweaty Balls · 10-08-2015, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Sparrow

oh. well then, i apologize for taking it personally. i just hate it /so/ much. and those dewy eyed dummy fucks who read it during lunch. THE CAFETERIA ISN'T GODDAMN WUTHERING HEIGHTS, REBECCA!!!

Apology accepted - also you are dumb for not liking it.

Just kidding - we all like what we like. (and apparently hate what/who we hate)

Mundane Soul · 10-09-2015, 08:15 AM

As a literature major, there is definitely some value to works like Pride and Prejudice, but it also reads like a real shitshow in a modern context. The early 19th century wasn't exactly a great time for feminism...or racial equality...or anything except being a white guy with lots of money and guns.

I get both sides of this argument. Basically, it's your thing or it isn't. Either way, you're fine.

viciouskitten · 10-09-2015, 11:43 AM

Reading old books in today's context will always make them seem ridiculous. Shakespeare reads like gibberish if you don't take some time to figure out the dialect and whats actually being said. If that bores you then fine. But it doesn't mean the books are stupid. Its just not your thing.

Jane Austin wrote her books mainly as satire. The stories seem ridiculous because they were meant to. It was a commentary on her society not a teen romance novel. If you read them without realizing that then they will come off as nonsense.

iheartnihilism · 10-12-2015, 05:21 PM

No one's gonna mention that Chemda confused O Henry's short story The Gift of the Magi with fucking Little Women?! Ha jeez.

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My Sweaty Balls Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 537	Interesting that there was very little book talk on the forums. it seems the philosophy around here is if you are religious ignorant you are stupid - if you are book ignorant you are cool. I disagreed with everything said about books on this episode. (OK Kurt Vonnegut is great but everything else). But I disagreed most with Sparrow. I was never into Jane Austin growing up, but recently I saw a list of the greatest novels of all time - and Pride and Prejudice was number 1. So I read it, with the expectation that the critics who wrote the list were full of shit. Nope - it was fucking great. Read it. (Then read Cormac McCarthy's Blood Meridian - my current favourite book.) __________________ “Look, having nuclear — my uncle was a great professor and scientist and engineer, Dr. John Trump at M.I.T.; good genes, very good genes, O.K., very smart, the Wharton School of Finance, very good, very smart — you know, if you’re a conservative Republican, if I were a liberal, if, like, O.K. …” - Donald Trump, 45th President of the United States of America
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10-08-2015, 07:38 PM	#42 (permalink)
My Sweaty Balls Senior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Melbourne, Australia Posts: 537	On the pole results. I really hate it when people say they don't believe in the god but the respect Jesus as some sort of great moral teacher. I get it if you are religious and have drunk the cool aid and believe in shit that's obviously not true, because you have Faith. I get it if you see all religion as bullshit and therefore you don't believe in Jesus because you need Evidence. But how can you say I don't have faith, but I'm going to ignore the evidence. (in case you are wondering, there is no evidence apart from the New Testament that Jesus existed. There is lots of evidence that the New Testament is bullshit). If you don't believe in god, don't believe in Jesus. End of Rant.....no, no wait a sec, one more thing. And you know who is worse, "I'm not religious, I'm spiritual," combining the arrogance of atheism with the stupidity of religion. Its the worst of both worlds. Why do people like the pope? - well he wasn't in the Nazi Part, and he didn't run the part of the church in charge of covering up pedophilia.
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10-08-2015, 10:50 PM	#45 (permalink)
Sparrow Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Georgia Posts: 5,397	oh. well then, i apologize for taking it personally. i just hate it /so/ much. and those dewy eyed dummy fucks who read it during lunch. THE CAFETERIA ISN'T GODDAMN WUTHERING HEIGHTS, REBECCA!!! lizsquiz likes this.
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10-09-2015, 08:15 AM	#47 (permalink)
Mundane Soul Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: misshuri Posts: 209	As a literature major, there is definitely some value to works like Pride and Prejudice, but it also reads like a real shitshow in a modern context. The early 19th century wasn't exactly a great time for feminism...or racial equality...or anything except being a white guy with lots of money and guns. I get both sides of this argument. Basically, it's your thing or it isn't. Either way, you're fine. viciouskitten likes this.
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10-09-2015, 11:43 AM	#48 (permalink)
viciouskitten Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 26	Reading old books in today's context will always make them seem ridiculous. Shakespeare reads like gibberish if you don't take some time to figure out the dialect and whats actually being said. If that bores you then fine. But it doesn't mean the books are stupid. Its just not your thing. Jane Austin wrote her books mainly as satire. The stories seem ridiculous because they were meant to. It was a commentary on her society not a teen romance novel. If you read them without realizing that then they will come off as nonsense. Los, Lanfear and My Sweaty Balls like this.
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iheartnihilism Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Jersey City Posts: 1,571	No one's gonna mention that Chemda confused O Henry's short story The Gift of the Magi with fucking Little Women?! Ha jeez.
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