2490: Ebony and Ivory

Michael's Servant · 10-12-2016, 12:00 AM

with Mychal Denzel Smith – Molly Knefel co-hosts: Male feminists; Christopher Columbus: fraud/liar; expecting to die as a black man; anxiety and suicide; how to solve police troubles; dating apps; sneakerheads; politically active sports figures; Luke Cage, Westworld, Masterminds, Storks and The Girl on the Train reviewed; Nate Parker/The Birth of a Nation revisited

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Molly Knefel

Mychal Denzel Smith

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Dean from Australia · 10-12-2016, 01:37 AM

As much as I empathized with Mychal's perspective on policing and law enforcement, I don't agree that less police is answer to the current dysfunction in the U.S.

Law enforcement is necessary for the safety and security of a community.

However, the recruitment and vetting of candidates seems, to me, to be a major problem faced by law enforcement agencies. I've seen a lot of bigotry and racism creep into policing and I think that the vetting processes to identify candidates who exhibit these qualities needs to be strengthened so that bigotry, racism, homophobia etc, etc are eliminated.

Also, community engagement between the police and key community representatives needs to be strengthened and supported so that positive relationships can be maintained between police and communities. When you have positive relationships, you have the climate for mutual respect. The tragic situations we have seen over the past few years would surely fall away.

These are only two things out of a myriad of things that need to be done but surely they're worth doing.

Sakugenken · 10-12-2016, 11:17 AM

What a great show, I love Molly Knefel as a guest host! This was a bit serious for a KATG episode, but really eye opening- thanks Mychal Denzel Smith.

Enunciated Piffle · 10-12-2016, 12:51 PM

Mychal Denzel Smith got me so WOKE that I may need insomnia treatment.

A++

alex_vincent · 10-12-2016, 06:59 PM

Every civilized country has police, not just the US.

Does Mychal believe cops were originally slave-catchers and union-busters in every country? Is policing fundamentally different in the US, and if so, how?

He seems like a smart guy but this is a lot of lazy rhetoric.

FingerLakes · 10-19-2016, 12:17 AM

I saw Birth of a Nation and was JUST ABOUT TO sneak into Girl on the Train but I ended up going to my friends place.

Really fucking loved Birth of a Nation, can't lie. I don't think his maybe rape and shitty personality as a hollywood person is enough to have made me boycott this ( Honestly, I hadn't even heard about this until the drama of the rape came). The movie isn't going to win him an oscar or jump start his career but I think this story is something that could be talked about more. People know the general story of Harriet Tubman but that's where the knowledge of black people fighting against slavery ends

Keith · 10-19-2016, 12:26 AM

Agreed, and that's why it'll (jump)start his career.

He'll be fine.

FingerLakes · 10-23-2016, 12:04 AM

He'll be as fine as he was. I really don't see him getting anywhere with it. Except to maybe teach acting or black history at NYU (those who can't, teach)The movie tanked, financially. The "black community" pretty much ignored or abandoned him. But i guess only time will tell

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Michael's Servant Administrator Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 1,333	2490: Ebony and Ivory with Mychal Denzel Smith – Molly Knefel co-hosts: Male feminists; Christopher Columbus: fraud/liar; expecting to die as a black man; anxiety and suicide; how to solve police troubles; dating apps; sneakerheads; politically active sports figures; Luke Cage, Westworld, Masterminds, Storks and The Girl on the Train reviewed; Nate Parker/The Birth of a Nation revisited Guests: Molly Knefel Mychal Denzel Smith Share this episode: Twitter, Facebook & email Get the show: on iTunes, on Stitcher and RSS feed Last edited by dannyhatch; 10-12-2016 at 11:43 AM.
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Dean from Australia Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Adelaide, Australia Posts: 1,297	As much as I empathized with Mychal's perspective on policing and law enforcement, I don't agree that less police is answer to the current dysfunction in the U.S. Law enforcement is necessary for the safety and security of a community. However, the recruitment and vetting of candidates seems, to me, to be a major problem faced by law enforcement agencies. I've seen a lot of bigotry and racism creep into policing and I think that the vetting processes to identify candidates who exhibit these qualities needs to be strengthened so that bigotry, racism, homophobia etc, etc are eliminated. Also, community engagement between the police and key community representatives needs to be strengthened and supported so that positive relationships can be maintained between police and communities. When you have positive relationships, you have the climate for mutual respect. The tragic situations we have seen over the past few years would surely fall away. These are only two things out of a myriad of things that need to be done but surely they're worth doing. Los likes this. __________________ Dean from Australia Dot Com
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Sakugenken Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Wakayama, Japan Posts: 113	What a great show, I love Molly Knefel as a guest host! This was a bit serious for a KATG episode, but really eye opening- thanks Mychal Denzel Smith. Keith, Lanfear, Dean from Australia and 2 others like this.
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Enunciated Piffle Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Montana Posts: 4,080	Mychal Denzel Smith got me so WOKE that I may need insomnia treatment. A++ lizsquiz, shoebootie and Apia like this.
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alex_vincent Junior Member Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 28	Cliche Guevara Every civilized country has police, not just the US. Does Mychal believe cops were originally slave-catchers and union-busters in every country? Is policing fundamentally different in the US, and if so, how? He seems like a smart guy but this is a lot of lazy rhetoric.
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FingerLakes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Hollow Bastion Posts: 1,887	I saw Birth of a Nation and was JUST ABOUT TO sneak into Girl on the Train but I ended up going to my friends place. Really fucking loved Birth of a Nation, can't lie. I don't think his maybe rape and shitty personality as a hollywood person is enough to have made me boycott this ( Honestly, I hadn't even heard about this until the drama of the rape came). The movie isn't going to win him an oscar or jump start his career but I think this story is something that could be talked about more. People know the general story of Harriet Tubman but that's where the knowledge of black people fighting against slavery ends __________________ -------------------------------------------------
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Keith PARTY! SUPER PARTY! Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: NYC, baby! Posts: 13,758	Agreed, and that's why it'll (jump)start his career. He'll be fine.
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FingerLakes Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Hollow Bastion Posts: 1,887	He'll be as fine as he was. I really don't see him getting anywhere with it. Except to maybe teach acting or black history at NYU (those who can't, teach)The movie tanked, financially. The "black community" pretty much ignored or abandoned him. But i guess only time will tell
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