2632: Standing on a Ladder

[Keith]

with Shane Torres – Taking your dad off life support; children and football; children and beauty pageants; waking up gay; the controversial new Miss USA; the Spokane Spanker

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Shane Torres



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[Sparrow]

i used to get pageant brochures in the mail when i was a kid. i kept them in a secret drawer in my room and looked at them a lot. having brought it up as an adult, my mother said she would have allowed me had i spoken up, she got a serious kick out of my whims and fancies, but as it was the idea of interacting with a group of girls i didn't know was really scary, so i just took my tiaras out in the woods and pretended. i have to imagine, looking back, getting my confidence that early born in the Southern pageant circuit would have turned me into a huge bitch. i'd probably still be going to church.

[Sparrow]

speaking of, Casting JonBenet on Netflix is a good watch.

[Keith]

And who still loves tiaras?

[Jo_Culprit]

"My view on kids is, talk to their core-self and teach both sides of the story and give them enough confidence and love that hopefully they'll make the right decisions in the end" - Chemda

I'm not sure I can vote on this pole, my main issue with Chemda's point is that on one hand kids pick up a lot of ideas from their environment which includes the people they're exposed to at school. From what Chemda was saying I think she's picturing the desires of the children coming from their 'core-selves' whereas Keith's point of view is that these ideas are coming from an external place.

If I had a child that suddenly got the idea that they'd be very interested in football I would look for the source of that and would point them in the direction of a less dangerous sport. They key difference for me is that sports are broadly in a category of athleticism, and nailing one particular sport as the be all and end of for the child is silly.
Each and every calling isn't so damn specific when you're a child much less for adults. For pageant kids you could just as easily encourage them into making clothes, hair and makeup without the permanent dangers to their self-esteem that comes with child beauty pageants.

[Keith]

Sounds like you can vote.

[Sparrow]

Originally Posted by Keith

And who still loves tiaras?

…i do.

[Archimedes_Screw]

A post coital grilled cheese sandwich sounds amazing. Then wash it down with a summer ale. I need to be rich.

[Archimedes_Screw]

"Make like a beast with two baby back ribs." P. Diddy Shakespeare

[memecherry]

Another part of my passion against boxing & football is that it has become an exploitative way for brown & black kids to "make it out of the hood"...

Just like we look back at gladiator fights as barbaric, we will look back at football the same way.

No amount of padding stops the brain from jostling around in the skull & unfortunately one of the few things that CAN help, cannabis, is prohibited by the league. Many players not only develop CTE, but the pain they put their bodies through leaves many of them hooked on painkillers, etc...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/...STL/story.html

"As parents become more cautious, football will be left to communities with fewer options. This has always been true of boxing, where the gladiators tend to have nothing to lose. The current popularity of football on television and the high salaries of players mask the sport’s stratifications as surely as Muhammad Ali’s dancing in the ring concealed the brutality of boxing. Majority African-American teams essentially beat one another’s brains out in front of mostly white crowds and the white skybox elite."