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3518: Deep Water w/ Myq Kaplan
Myq Kaplan joins Keith and Chemda to help discuss the infamous lunch he had with Keith, Chemda dumping herself, and - HOT SOUP - Lia Thomas, the transgender NCAA Women’s Swimming champion.
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I think Keith's questions about the athletes are valid.
My solution to it as a person who never watches any sports is to say: Professional sport is unfair anyway and avoid the problem. |
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Chemda, have you taken probiotics since your op, where presumably you had to take antibiotics? Every time I needed antibiotics it fucked up my digestive system, and probiotics did a LOT to fix up my gut germs.
Re. Trans athletes: surely if it was a problem we'd be seeing only trans winners in every woman's sport, but we don't. The biggest issue with trans athletes is that it suddenly caused a lot of people to suddenly care about sports when they previously never did. For some reason. |
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Too many of the Lia Thomas whiners were never told "life isn't fair" as a child - sometimes other people have more talent than you! All you can do is your own best, stop worrying so much about other people. You didn't see people crying so much when Michael Phelps, Mutant Swimmer Man, was dominating.
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When Keith was talking about Lia's swim record as a male he missed something really important. This is understandable because the red hats are pushing this narrative on purpose.
She was doing really well as a male UNTIL she started her hormone therapy. The results Keith read were podt hormones. Several sources on the web state that while she won, she broke no records and her time is right on par with cis women. Look around at who you get your information from. It can be really dangerous to spread incorrect information about trans people. Was grateful it was Myq on this episode. Last edited by marykae; 03-24-2022 at 12:54 PM. |
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I get all your points. And I’m not invested in sports.
Still, the build of the body is one of the reasons for success. And the body size was influenced by the hormones from before the transition. One of the reasons! That’s why hard to say how much of a role it plays. I have no idea how to adjust for this. Because, where should trans athletes compete? Other possibilities seem worse. The idea with extra categories seem also problematic, it would say they aren’t “real women” this sounds discriminatory. But I really don’t know! I’m going back to not caring about sports. Last edited by Apia resurrected; 03-24-2022 at 01:42 PM. |
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"In March 2022, Thomas became the first openly transgender athlete to win an NCAA Division I national championship in any sport, after winning the women's 500-yard freestyle with a time of 4:33.24; Olympic silver medalist Emma Weyant was second with a time 1.75 seconds behind Thomas.[19][20][21] Thomas was 9.18 seconds short of Katie Ledecky’s NCAA record of 4:24.06.[22]" Agree she only one first place in the national championship, didn't set a world record. Not sure why she needs to set a record for it to be unfair advantage? Which is same point to Myk's point that others have transitioned and not won national champs etc., just means they started with unfair advantage but either wasn't enough or other factors were at play. Everyone forgets about Laurel Hubbard here too. Please advise. Quote:
Extra categories discussed above. Last edited by nordcharonmir; 03-24-2022 at 05:12 PM. |
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