2398: Where Am I?

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with Matt Goldich – Dog owners vs. child owners; MSNBC admits networks are told to announce Hillary Clinton as the democratic nominee on June 7th before primaries close; Snoop Dogg boycotts the Roots remake; strip club sign offends neighborhood; Puck from Glee indicted on child porn charges; swimmer drowns at lifeguard tryouts; Michael Bay’s odd views on actresses; NYC spends $6.6 million on Weight Watchers for city workers

Guest:
Matt Goldich


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[Jmsmittyroad]

Chemda asked how the counts work when you were talking about Puck's computer. Two counts: Count 1 - it is illegal to possess child porn and it was found on his computer. Child porn only gets on your computer one of two ways. You went looking for it or you produced it. That leads to Count 2 - it s illegal to seek out child porn.

And about the pleading not guilty thing, a defendant will always plead not guilty at the initial court appearance because there have been no plea negotiations, no viewing of the evidence by the defense, and often times, the defendant does not have an attorney yet. Once that plea is entered the court has to determine if the defendant is a risk to the community or a flight risk. Absent those two things, they can be released on bond.

[Jmsmittyroad]

....also, the number of images found, the content of this images, and how they were received and stored are all enhancements to the sentence a person gets after they plead or are found guilty at trial.

Since they did not charge him with production, it sounds like he was downloading the images from the Internet.

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Jmsmittyroad

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Since they did not charge him with production, it sounds like he was downloading the images from the Internet.

And I would assume the police found a child porn site/distribution ring and checked who visited and downloaded stuff from there.

But yeah it's more comedy to imagine him accidentally putting it on the cloud.

[Jmsmittyroad]

[QUOTE=Lanfear;853206]And I would assume the police found a child porn site/distribution ring and checked who visited and downloaded stuff from there.

There are a lot of ways police can get probable cause to search his computer. Not the least of which is someone accessing his computer, finding a file marked "not child porn", and ratting him out.

[FingerLakes]

ooooph

childporn. Hollywood seems to be wrapped up in this like a demonic tentacle

when you're rich wouldn't you pay someone else to download that stuff for you? Just say "I'll give you $25,000 a week, download my gross shit at YOUR place, turn off your wifi and give me your laptop for the weekend."

[invader]

Originally Posted by FingerLakes

ooooph

childporn. Hollywood seems to be wrapped up in this like a demonic tentacle

when you're rich wouldn't you pay someone else to download that stuff for you? Just say "I'll give you $25,000 a week, download my gross shit at YOUR place, turn off your wifi and give me your laptop for the weekend."

That's a fun hypothetical, is that money under the table? When they finally kick in the door are allowed to rat on the guy paying you?

[Lanfear]

Originally Posted by Jmsmittyroad

There are a lot of ways police can get probable cause to search his computer. Not the least of which is someone accessing his computer, finding a file marked "not child porn", and ratting him out.

Very true he might actually be dumb enough to have that easily findable on a computer that he lets people use or told his buddies all about his porn habits.

[invader]

My understanding is that if you want a reliable source of child porn you have to turn to the "darkweb" utilizing browsers like Tor. Some of the sites that you would download the tor browser from have FBI malware, so as soon as people use the software they popup on a FBI watch list. When the feds kick in your door for child porn, they KNOW whats been going on on the computer its just a matter of finding out if the evidence is still on the computer. That's why you never really hear of cases where the FBI kicks down a door and the person was cleared of all charges.

[Keith]

Like Tor you say...

I'm watching you...