3421: Permission to Speak w/ Dave (Gruber) Allen

[Keith]

It’s Gruber! With 32 years in the business, Dave joins KATG to talk about all things big and small — literally and figuratively: the size of Stars Hollow, the sentencing of Derek Chauvin, the prison hanging of antivirus software creator John McAfee, and Rudy Giuliani losing his New York license to practice law. The gang also talks about hippie lifestyles, Hollywood drug use, and the Grubers of the world.

Guest:
Dave (Gruber) Allen



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[Svage]

Dear God that magic spoon ad read. I was wheezing.

[Scorpion]

I'm always ready for KATG week I have my old school hat and although it will provably be hot I'm hoping to have my new sweatshirt. If I get it for chat night or the CONTEST OF CHAMPIONS on Friday I'll wear it for the camera.

Cheers mate!

FYI that's not pronounced like you might think Chemda I don't know how to describe it but it's not the same ch sound you are used too. But this just occurred to me, when Chemda was younger and at a party if people were chanting CHUG CHUG CHUG, did she think they were asking to have snuggle? Just foolin'! luv you!

[Apia resurrected]

He was prepared and i thought very sweet.

[Scorpion]

22.5 is a bullshit number. This was a complete disregard for George Floyd as a human being who disserved due process and life. There was no running he waited for police, there was no fighting he simple didn't want to be arrested without having committed a crime. Mr. Floyd was unarmed. Yet the officer in charge treated him like he was a dangerous criminal that needed to be restrained from fighting and fleeing custody even after being handcuffed.

The officer was bathed in authority and protected, untouchable, while he snuffed out the life of George Floyd in the street in front of witnesses, in front of a camera, in front of EMS who wanted to help Mr. Floyd and in front of other officers who provided a shield of force ensuring the murderer had the luxury to over 9 minutes suffocate a man to death.

This is a crime of the highest; brutality, disregard for life, abuse of authority.

This was not the act of an officer who in the course of performing their duty to enforce the law and apprehend a criminal used force that led to the accidental death of a suspect. It was cold blooded murder.

[punk'n]

Originally Posted by Scorpion

22.5 is a bullshit number. This was a complete disregard for George Floyd as a human being who disserved due process and life. There was no running he waited for police, there was no fighting he simple didn't want to be arrested without having committed a crime. Mr. Floyd was unarmed. Yet the officer in charge treated him like he was a dangerous criminal that needed to be restrained from fighting and fleeing custody even after being handcuffed.

The officer was bathed in authority and protected, untouchable, while he snuffed out the life of George Floyd in the street in front of witnesses, in front of a camera, in front of EMS who wanted to help Mr. Floyd and in front of other officers who provided a shield of force ensuring the murderer had the luxury to over 9 minutes suffocate a man to death.

This is a crime of the highest; brutality, disregard for life, abuse of authority.

This was not the act of an officer who in the course of performing their duty to enforce the law and apprehend a criminal used force that led to the accidental death of a suspect. It was cold blooded murder.

Gruber was 100% right about the sentencing though. Chauvin was convicted of manslaughter which carries a maximum sentence. The judge can't just sentence him to life.

Also, Chauvin's lawyer has to ask for a new trial. Any lawyer would appeal this case but this one ESPECIALLY because it's setting a precedent that police don't have absolute immunity. It's great that he asked for a new trial and it was denied because that means this ruling might actually stick! But Chauvin has many more avenues to get this case back into court so we probably haven't seen the last of this fuckface.

[Scorpion]

Originally Posted by punk'n

Gruber was 100% right about the sentencing though. Chauvin was convicted of manslaughter which carries a maximum sentence. The judge can't just sentence him to life.

No, he wasn't he was convicted of all three charges: second-degree unintentional murder, third-​degree murder and second-degree manslaughter. The sentences would be served simultaneously, not cumulatively so it only matter that he was convicted of all three if he could get one overturned. The maximum sentence he could have gotten was 40 years for the worst crime. The other two were 10 and 20 years. The fact that he got 22.5, just barely above the max of the lesser charge is sickening to me. Keep in mind that drug convictions of 20 years is not uncommon.

The fact that he had no prior convictions shouldn't be a factor since any prior criminal acts like it were covered up by the fact that he committed those crimes as a police officer and the crimes were overlooked. Yes, he had prior incidents of brutality and shootings on his record.
The fact that he murdered someone in the line of duty "to protect the citizens" should have pushed his sentence further toward the maximum. IMHO

[JJMArtwork]

I think Keith should hang a framed board game in place of the guitar.

[Keith]

Originally Posted by JJMArtwork

I think Keith should hang a framed board game in place of the guitar.

of a Monopoly game I won.

[Scorpion]

Originally Posted by Keith

of a Monopoly game I won.

the guitar is nice don't let them trick you into taking it down. It doesn't mater if you play or not. It's cool.